MinJungKim.com Braindump v 6.0 Gah. I’m still doing this?

Heh. Korea is about as mysterious as Wisconsin to me.Maybe not as much.

Posted by doug on 14 July 2004 @ 3am

If anyone has actually met Sandra Oh, submissive is certainly NOT a word to describe her. But yes, tis beating a dead horse, isn’t it?

Posted by Christine on 14 July 2004 @ 11am

that’s fucked up.

it is reminiscent of a recent website i linked to through someone else which discussed stated that during recent decades White westerners have increasingly adopted Asian/Native American/African American children because it somehow validates them, makes them feel superior (look how unselfish i am, adopting a minority race), and plus because “asian babies are cute”. i don’t agree with that, but a lot of people take white adoption of minority children as a racism issue.

is it wrong for some white men think asian women are sexier than white women? depends on the reason. assuming it’s only because of their alleged “submissiveness” and domestication talents is bullsh*t. asian women are beautiful. some men prefer tall eastern-european looking blondes. others prefer asian women. what’s the difference? why is there always a race/class/culture issue?

Posted by leblanc on 14 July 2004 @ 12pm

I’m not Korean.. But this article is just WRONG. I can’t believe someone would write such garbage.

Posted by NH on 14 July 2004 @ 1pm

Heh, I saw this linked on Angry Asian Man, so I immediately thought of you MJ, and yes… submissive? MJ? Not on your life! and a second and third to all that was said (ignorant, racist and just not true), I find it interesting and indicative of the permeation of transnational racism to note that this article is on a Korean website, (trophy white spouse comes to mind)… but then there’s Woody Allen and who knows what was going on there…!

Posted by Jesse! on 14 July 2004 @ 5pm

Omigod! I thought it was bad enough that we get the subtle hint everyday in the media that the “Asian Sex Kitten” needed to be tamed by the humongo-white man’s- love tool, but for this kind of crap to come from motherland’s teet…

What next? Stats on how Corean women are doing their parents proud by marrying a doctor/lawyer/Yahoo exec?

Posted by Dave on 14 July 2004 @ 6pm

Ha, ha!!! You’re mysterious and submissive, you’re mysterious and submissive, nyah, nyah, nyah!!!

Posted by Jado on 15 July 2004 @ 5am

oh..hi MJ, psst, my flight leaves in two hours, I’ve got something to confeh…oh..just meet me. I’ve got to tell you face to face. The Woo Lae Ok restaurant, Wilshire and Sunset..@ 6 PM. It’s all been “arranged” if you know what I mean. I’ve gotta go, Steve is bugging me to get the airport. luv, George.

Posted by drewl on 15 July 2004 @ 8am

Huh?? You seriously care about this shit? Jeez, woman…grow up and/or get a LIFE!!

Posted by Jun on 16 July 2004 @ 3am

Jun: I think we all agree it’s a dumb article. Some people - like you - believe ignoring this garbage will make it go away. Others believe in confronting it face on.

Min Jung: Incidentally, Phat Farm founder Russell Simmons also married a Korean American woman, Kimora Lee.

Posted by Julie on 16 July 2004 @ 10am

fyi, kimora lee simmons’ mom is Japanese,not Korean.

Posted by tiqtoq on 17 July 2004 @ 12pm

#1: As I’m as white as that stoopid pair of trousers I daren’t wear as they’ll get dirty the moment I sit on the Underground seat, and my son is a beautiful brown colour (due to African father), I get loads and loads of strangers asking me in front of my son if he is adopted, and where is he from -I say the truth in a pissed-off grunt: ‘Here, Barcelona, he’s catalan -can’t you see?!’ -I even get total strangers asking me if I’m his mother really, in front of the kid!!! Thank God he is really close to me and this is not causing him much trouble, but he has asked me many times after these nosy bitches disturb us ‘Mum, are you *really* my mum? Why are they surprised?’ so on I go to explain genetics to him again…

#2: Re: Asian lovers… I have an affair with an asian guy, 12 years younger, and we’re close friends… hhhhhhmmmm… mysterious and sumissive when hasn’t drunk too many beers vodka mixes ;D

Posted by Aurea on 19 July 2004 @ 6am

[ Not commenting on that lame and pointless article ]

I’m white (not American though, but that still counts right?) and I do indeed feel attracted by the Asian aesthetic. Not only women, I’m particularly sensitive to Japanese culture as a whole (sorry, I know Koreans don’t really like to hear that…), the language, the philosophy, architecture, etc… I don’t think I’m discriminating, it’s a question of personal taste and I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.

Now, I know for a fact that a lot of white/black guys out there are into Asian girls because they think they’re “submissive and mysterious.” I know because they automatically assume that I’m one of them when they find out I’m into Japanese stuff, and also because Asian people often make the same assumption. I just get rid of the white/black guys by telling them to fuck off but it take longer to gain the trust of Japanese people. I’m actually so used to that kind of stereotyping that I usually first hide my interest in Japan.

Back to the subject: it’s obvious that the “submissive and mysterious” cliche is blatant ignorant stereotyping. But it doesn’t come from nowhere, it’s a common misinterpretation of a culture difference and the subtlety in the way most Japanese people (not as familiar with other cultures) express their feelings and communicate in general: the mysterious part. As for the submissive thing: their culture clearly emphasize a more “traditional” sense of values where the role of the man and the woman is more clearly defined. It’s pretty easy to focus on this particular aspect of the culture, oversimplify it with a superficial occidental spin on it, and reduce it to mere chauvinism. And it’s no wonder why so many Americans do just that…

ok, I’m done.

Posted by Mr. X on 19 July 2004 @ 8am

As a Korean, can we possibly get away from this submissive bull sh*t, interracial relationships (at least in california) is so friggin common, can we not just get past the fact that people are people? Who friggin cares, and submissive– for myself and several of my asian sistahs.. HA I THINK NOT!!

Posted by Elain on 3 November 2004 @ 9pm